Friday February 24, 2012 Report - The 11th full report for the 2011 / 2012 year.
Click here for the TABLE OF CONTENTS for the "Extra Web Data" not in the email. This upper section will be used for minor updates until the next report is prepared. New items are preceded with an *.
Minor Updates: (The main report is sent to the email list. Sometimes minor updates are added here.)
Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 19:30 PM minor update to last
(Feb 24) full ski report: Go to http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xcskirpt.htm
for this and to see added info from the last two weeks and additional XC Ski
Those that have text only email will do better going to the online version.
1. Sunday 03/11/2012. Turn your clock ahead to MDT. Meet at the
Minor Update to last (Feb 24) ski report on Thursday,
March 01, 2012 18:35 PM: Go to http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xcskirpt.htm
for this and to see added info from last week.
Those that have text only email will do better going to the online version.
1. Saturday 03/03/2012. Meet at the Stagecoach Inn Motel Parking lot at 10:00 AM for a ski trip to the
1a. The Lost Trail Ski Patrol Steak Fry is listed as starting at 4:00 PM. (I'd not plan on eating quite that soon.). Anyway if you plan to attend, bring your own vehicle. Click Here for details.
OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST:
1. Click Here for info and a thank you from the lady that had to spend the night on the Scooter Trail. See links in last weeks report.
2. Lou Binik is a member of our group and makes his living sewing outdoor wear. Click Here for a neat interview and some local pictures (some of you are in them).
3. Last week I listed links about the raw deal the Forest Service dealt to the Bitterroot XC Club. Click Here for info from the Forest Service.
4. Click Here for pictures of patterns that a guy made by walking in the snow. Some folks think he may have cheated and "photoshopped" the picture. It's neat to look at - at any rate. Thanks for forwarding this Anita.
5. The Iditarod Race starts Saturday with a ceremonial start, with the official race starting on Sunday. I have a we page that I'll be working on with links to information about this race. Go to: http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/iditarodlinks.html
6. The Sawtooth Ski Festival is
this weekend in
We now have adequate snow on all
our trails. Generally the snow has been good. Those that like to tele ski some
of the steeper open meadows need to be aware that with the hotter sun, a
"sun crust" can quickly develop. Skiing on the shady side of a trail
can be helpful. Click
Here for the section of my XC Ski site that has links to both Chief Joseph
and William's Cr. snow and weather. Check the link to the Bitterroot XC Club's
Facebook site. They have some neat pictures. Check out the Missoula Nordic
Lost Trail reported 6" of new this morning and I estimated that William's Cr. Summit got a similar amount since last Sunday.
Click on the web version for
more details from last week and additional links.
Note: Blue or red underlined text is a web link. When clicking on the following links or any link it's sometimes necessary to do it twice by hitting the refresh button or F5:
Friday February 24, 2012, 16:15 PM
Cross Country Skiers:
You can see this current (11th) web version of this report
I will likely add some minor updates (on-line) next week.
The 1st through 10th reports for the 2011/2012 year are saved at http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xcskirpt1201.htm through http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xcskirpt1210.htm (Archived reports end in 1201.htm, 1202.htm, 1203.htm etc.)
Added local XC Ski info is available at my main Salmon XC
Ski Page at:
CHANGED PLANS: We were going to ski the Cabinet Cr. Trail at Chief Joe, but due to the heavy snowfall and resulting difficult trail breaking we've cancelled that trip.
02/26/2012. Meet at the
2. I'll probably plan to make at least one midweek ski. Give me a call at 756-2085 or 303-1041 if interested.
3. Rather than schedule the Cabinet Cr. Trail at this time, I'll wait to see what snow and weather conditions are like. Stay tuned for next weeks report.
I just updated my trip reports page. Go to http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/skitriprpt.htm for the reports. I lost my notes and don't have everyone's name for some days. (I use 1st names only.) Please let me know of needed corrections. Send me any reports that you'd like to see posted. I hope to have them updated this evening.
William's Creek Trail System:
The report is easy. There is now lots of snow and all trails are skiable (Unless the snowmobiles have trashed the top of the William's Cr. Trail and the North Moccasin Trail again.) I use the Lemhi Ridge Snotel as a guide for snow depths and it showed 19" of 1 hour increases since last Monday night. Some of these "increases are just depth sensor fluctuations, so I'd guess the actual snowfall was closer to 16" and this should be fairly close to that received at the Meadow Trailhead and higher. There will be less at Cougar Point. I had a report of knee high new snow at the Meadow TH. Currently all trails will need trail breaking. There were two graders working yesterday, and they will plow today, but not on the weekend. I expect that some of the trailhead parking areas may not get completely plowed until Monday. (They don't plow on the weekend.)
for a description of the Trailheads, Click Here for
"Trail Segment" mileages and descriptions, and Click Here
for my modification of the FS Trail descriptions.
Click Here for my on-line copy of the Trail map (minus the Mukluk and Upper Shoshoni Trails).
"Snow Shadow" is improving somewhat. .This morning the
Lemhi Ridge Snotel was 80.5% of normal although Morgan Cr Summit was only 69.9%
of normal, still the lowest in the Salmon River Basin. Conversely the Saddle
Mtn. Snotel (near the top of the Lost Trail Chair-lifts) is the third highest
Groomed Trails: CLICK HERE
and click on the Chief Joseph link and see the last several reports. There also
will probably be an update after they finish grooming today. Also check the
Como Trails and
Chief Joseph Area "Ungroomed Trails": Most trails will require much trail breaking.
I expect that the
Ski opportunities: See # 2a above. CLICK
HERE for Stanley & Sun Valley Areas including Galena Lodge, and
Harriman Trail (Click the "++More++" on the bottom to expand the
initial display.). Also Click Here
4. CLICK HERE for added links for Chief Joseph and William's Creek Snow and Weather Conditions.
1. I'd like to congratulate the Odd Fellows' Bakery again. Of all the
businesses, including the Bitterroot and
2. I often talk about safety when skiing the more remote trails. Check out my trip report for our trip on the Scooter Trail. We heard about some skiers that hadn't given themselves enough time and we skiing a trail that was too advanced for at least one skiers ability. We saw the fire pit where they spent the night. Click Here and Click Here for news reports of this situation.
3. Some of you have heard about the raw deal that the Forest Service (via the USDA Ethics folks) dealt to the Bitterroot XC Ski Club. Click Here and Click Here for details. You might also want to click on the "Discussion" links to see how others feel about this.
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1. PLANNED TRIPS: (See above)
2. PREVIOUS TRIPS:
3. Ski Trail Condition Reports: WILLIAM'S CR. TRAILS: , CHIEF JOSEPH - ANDERSON MT. ROAD AREA:
6. OTHER WEB LINKS:
INTRODUCTION: To better understand planned trips
and previous trip reports, I encourage you to get three maps. Go to the A. INTRODUCTION
Section of my Salmon
The current ski report will always be, posted on http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xcskirpt.htm.
If you want me to make changes on the email list, call me at 208-756-2085 or email me. You can get my email from the messages that I send to you or call me. Currently we have about have about 80 on the list.
For a short description of each ski trip to date for the 2008 - 2009 season go to: http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/skitriprpt.htm Scroll down, or click on the links for the latest and subsequent months for the season. NOTE also that there are links to the reports for previous years back to 2004.
Click Here for the Missoula Nordic Grooming
Info page. Scroll down for my latest
Lost Trail Ski Area
Links not yet in "CLIFF'S SALMON
Here's a link to a site that describes the TEN ESSENTIALS to carry on the trail. He's added a few additional items:
* Possible Ski Related News:
The Outdoors Sections
of the Missoulian and the
CLICK HERE for the Outdoors Section of the Missoulian On-Line. Check out the latest Outdoors News Briefs.
* CLICK HERE for the Outdoors Section of the
Here's an examples of some of their reporting. One is about the Lost Trail Ski Area and some previous changes.
* Here's the NEW WEST SNOWBLOG which may have local skiing info from time to time.
** Click here for wintertime articles by a local reporter.
** Check out the Idaho Summit's Idaho Outdoors Message Forum for some good trip reports.
Here's an interesting link to some history of ski (mountaineering) equipment:
Here's Lou Binik's
"Foxwear" web site:
http://www.foxwear.net/. Be sure to copy or type this correctly. "foxware.net", "foxware.com" and "foxwear.com" are all different sites.
Tawna Skinner services cross country
skis and equipment.
She will also give cross country and telemark ski instruction.
Details are at: http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/TawnaXCski.htm
Pray for snow,
Cliff Keene, Salmon,
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