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A. Introduction:
B. General Web Links Re. Local XC Skiing:
C. Descriptions of Local XC Ski Trails:
D. Local Snow, Weather and Road Conditions:
E. General XC & Backcountry Ski Sites
& Discussion Groups: New
F. MISC. XC Ski Links:
G. Printing hints for maps and other large
files:
H. Editing Instructions (to use this page
as a template for your personal version):
I. Web Site Statistics:
What's New? Minor updates made 01/28/2010. An asterisk precedes all new items. (Items updated since 10/16/2007). Do a Find * to go directly to new items.
1. Hints:
a. Most maps and other graphic
files take a long time to load. If you open the link in a "new
window" you can continue to "surf" or read the current page
while the page with the graphics is opening. In Internet Explorer rest the
cursor on the link and Right-Click the mouse and select "Open in New
Window".
b. Many pages including most of my “tables” will display best when
viewed in Full Screen Mode. Hit the F11 key to toggle in and out of
“full screen” mode.
2. Maps: To better understand planned trips and previous trip reports, I encourage you to get three maps:
a. The latest Chief Joseph Pass
Cross-Country Ski Trails Map by the Bitterroot Cross-Country Ski Club is
available at the trailhead. Note that this only has the groomed trails but is
quite up to date. There are a few very short cutoff trails not listed. ALSO,
CLICK HERE
for the clubs excellent on-line map. * The same map is available HERE
if the 1st link doesn’t work.
b. The USFS "Lost Trail and Chief Joseph Pass Cross-country Ski
Areas" Map (Revised 01/1995), is somewhat out of date for the groomed
Chief Joseph trails, but is the best hard copy source for the un-groomed
trails in the area and includes all the trails that we ski most. This map
will not be on display, so ask for them at your local Forest Service Office. * CLICK HERE
for an on-line map that covers the un-groomed trails near Chief Joseph Pass on
the Wisdom Ranger District (RD). This map is excellent. This takes a
long time to load (See #1. Hints above), but it’s worth it. It allows one
to zoom in for a very good display of the trails. The map has one minor
error in showing the junction of the Ander-Rich and Richardson Ridge Trails
incorrectly. CLICK HERE for the corrected
location of the Ander-Rich and Richardson Ridge Trail Junction and the south
extension of the Ander-Rich Trail.
b-1. The XC Ski Trails in the Lost Trail Pass area have changed somewhat
since the Lost Trail Ski Area expansion in about 1999. Refer to my trails
descriptions in Section C, below. Eventually, I hope to have some on-line maps
to show the current location of some of these trails.
c. The 1993-1994 Salmon-Challis Nat. Forests William's Creek Summit
Cross-Country Ski Trails Map and Description is still the current map for this
area. This map doesn't show the Deep Creek Ridge (Fire line), the Upper
Shoshoni (telemark run), or the Mukluk trails, but does show most of the trails
we regularly ski. . CLICK HERE
for my on-line copy. I’m hoping to get some GPS maps online shortly and
hopefully the Forest Service may get a grant to update trail signs and maps. I
ALSO have a draft Topo map that has all the trails and is easier to
read. Let me know if you want a copy.
* 1. Lost
Trail Powder Mountain Home Page. Trail
Maps: Fast loading "JPG" map
or slower loading high
resolution “PDF” map – CLICK HERE for an
alternate fast loading map.
Lost
Trail Snow Conditions: http://www.losttrail.com/snowreport.asp
2. Bitterroot
Cross Country Ski Club: http://www.bitterrootxcskiclub.net/
"
Chief Joe Snow Conditions: http://www.bitterrootxcskiclub.net/trail%20reports.htm
3. Missoula
Nordic Ski Club:
http://www.missoulanordic.org/
Missoula Area (Includes Chief Jo) XC
Snow & Grooming Conditions:
Click on the following and scroll down to
Chief Joseph: http://missoulanordic.org/cgi-bin/snow_grooming/discus.cgi
4. The Salmon Chamber of Commerce Winter Recreation Page has a good general overview of local skiing opportunities.
6. Cliff's
Salmon Idaho Web Pages (Also see Cliff’s William’s Cr. and Lost Trail/Chief Joseph pages,
further below):
My Weekly Cross Country (XC) Ski Planned
Trip & Trail Condition Report:
http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xcskirpt.htm
My Salmon, Idaho Cross-Country Previous
Ski Trip Reports Winter 2007 - 2008:
http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/skitriprpt.htm
My Introduction to Cross-Country
Skiing 101 page:
http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/IntroToXc101.htm
My Welcome to Our Cross Country
Ski Group page: (Has history of the Salmon Nordic Ski Association,
etc.)
http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/Welcome.htm
Salmon, Idaho XC Ski Photos Page:
http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/xctripphotos.htm
- This site is out of date. I’ll leave the link in case I get time to fix it.
Refer to notes on what
kind of pictures I can post.
The following link is to the current
page, which has numerous local XC Ski Links. (Listed for printing
purposes.)
My General Salmon, Idaho XC Ski Page:
http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/cksalxcski.htm
1. Chief
Joseph Pass, Lost Trail Pass, Saddle Mt. Area: Refer to the Lost Trail and Chief Joseph
Cross-country Ski Area map (described in A 2 b., above, and available
from the Salmon-Challis NF) for a good overview of these trails including non
groomed trails. Another more detailed map of just the groomed Chief Joseph
Trails is available at the trailhead. (Refer to A 2 a., above.)
Using this map, my vehicle mileage, and recently my GPS, I’ve created a
table that lists individual trail segments. The table above may show that a
trail is 2.5 miles long, but it usually doesn’t show that it’s, 1.5 miles on
another trail before it starts.
Go to my draft trail segment table at: http://home.custertel.net/~ckeene41/LtCjTrailSegs.htm
for this information.
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a. Beaverhead-Deerlodge
(BHDL) "Official" XC trail site. Lists most trails in the
Forest, including most of the trails near Chief Joseph, but with some minor
mileage errors. Multiply Kilometers times 0.621 to get miles. Note that
distance out on Anderson Mountain Road to get to four of the trails is not
listed. Refer to my table of miles for more specific details. CLICK HERE for the latest
Beaverhead-Deerlodge NF News Releases.
I’ll try and check this periodically and post a notification
in my “weekly” ski trip report. But you may want to check this in case I
forget.
b. There are three WinterMT.com sites that list XC Ski Trails in the Lost Trail Chief Joseph Area. Use caution however because many of the mileages are incorrect. 1. Un-Groomed Trails in the Chief Joseph Pass area near Wisdom. 2. Summary of Beaverhead trails including the Groomed Trails at Chief Joseph Pass. 3. XC Trails at Lost Trail Pass. All these trails are at least in part in the Lost Trail Ski Area and all but the Saddle Mtn Road can not be found easily. The Saddle Mtn mileage does not include the mileage (5 miles) to ski to the edge of the Ski Area. This extra mileage can be reduced to a mile or two by taking a chair lift to the top. See my description elsewhere.
c. An AltaMeadow.Com Description & Map of Chief Joseph Trails: This is a good map of the groomed trails, although it’s a little out of date. The “Continental Divide” trail on this map is now “Broadway” with the current CD Trail missing on the map.
d. The Bitterroot NF used to have
an on-line X-C Ski Trails Guide which listed the Saddle Mountain ski trail and
had information on the Chief Joseph trails. They don’t list that information
any more. However several other web sites still quote the information. It
listed incorrect mileage for the Saddle Mtn. Road trail. Skiing the entire
Saddle Mountain Road is about 9 km or 5.6 miles. One should use caution skiing
up the lower Saddle Mt. Road because this is a ski area "cat track".
Another option is to purchase a $5.00 "one trip" pass to the top and
ski out to the Saddle Mountain Road. The connector trail starts about 100 yards
south west of the top of Lift #2. This is probably 4.8 km as previously listed
in this web site, and quoted on several other web sites.
Caution: Some web sites and previous maps list other trails in the Lost Trail
area. These are for the most part now in the recent Lost Trail Ski Area
“Expansion Area”. You need to get both a Lost Trail Ski Area Map (See Link
at B 1., above) and the Lost Trail & Chief Joseph Pass Map
cited in A 2 b., above to interpret these old trail
descriptions. The "Wildfire Trail" and "Saddle Mountain
Burn" are now part of the expanded Lost Trail Ski area. That doesn't mean
one couldn't ski these areas, but the three "Wildfire" Trails and the
"...Burn" trail are very hard to find because they have been replaced
by trails shown on the Lost Trail Ski Area Map. An alternative for strong cross
country skiers or beginning telemark skiers is to ski down the Lost Trail
"Candy Stick Trail" to the base of the Huckleberry Lift # 3. Then go
down and to the north about 100 yards to the end of the "Saddle Mountain
Burn Trail" which at this point follows the West Camp Cr. Road out to
Highway 93. You'll need a shuttle vehicle here. Lost Trail is a favorite for
telemark skiers. In March of 2008 we found another trail that goes from the
Lost Trail Rest Area (close
e. A1 Trails Guide: Cross-Country Skiing in Montana - http://www.a1trails.com/xc_ski/xc_mt.html
Select 13A for Chief Joseph. Note that there are a few errors. There
are no actual trail "Fees", although there is a box for donations.
This area is managed by the Beaverhead-Deerlodge
National Forests, Wisdom RD: 406-689-3243, not the Bitterroot NF. Maps
should be available at the trailhead. The other info appears to be correct.
Refer to the map cited in A 2 a. above.
Select 13B for the Saddle Mountain-Lost Trail Pass Area. Note that there
are a few errors. None of the trails in the Lost Trail Saddle Mountain area
connect with the Chief Joseph area. (Although there is a "snowmobile
route" north of Hwy 43 that does connect.) There are no trail fees and no
opportunity for donations. This area is managed by the Bitterroot National Forest,
Sula RD: 406-821-3201, not the Beaverhead-Deerlodge NF. Refer to
C 1 d., above for a description of these trails.
f. The Idaho Falls Ski Club has a page of XC Ski Area Maps which includes a General Location Map for the Chief Joseph and Mt Haggin Areas. They also have the original Chief Joseph Pass XC Ski Trails On-Line Map that was listed in Section A above.
2. Williams Creek Cross-Country Ski Trails Area: Refer to the Salmon-Challis NF William's Creek Cross-Country Ski Trails Map and Description (cited in A 2 c., above) for a good overview of this area. As of 2002/2003 the Deep Creek Ridge, Upper Shoshoni, and Mukluk Trails were not on the map. Contact me for a larger scale draft contour map including these trails.
a. General description - http://www.salmonchamber.com/recreation-winter.htm
b. Cliff's Williams Cr. Ski
Trails Sites:
Trail
Descriptions Trailhead
Locations Trail Map Trail Segment table
Salmon Nordic Ski Assn. Salmon Challis NF X-C Needs
Discussion. (To be added later.)
3. Other Local Areas:
a.
Salmon Area Groomed Snowmobile Trails: Currently these are also open to cross country skiers.
Please use courtesy and step aside for snowmobiles. These are groomed for
snowmobilers and their license fees pay in part for this. Conversely many of
the cross-country trails are not open to snowmobiling.
There is a snowmobile map available at the Chamber of Commerce Office in the
City Building, I believe. I’ll see if I can scan a copy of On-Line use.
b. Visit Idaho XC Ski Trails On-Line These don't include our William's Creek or Lost Trail - Chief Joseph areas. The closest trails listed are in the Stanley Area and Craters of the Moon.
4. Cross-Country Trails in Other Parts of Idaho:
a. Idaho Parks & Rec. Nordic Skiing Site: http://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/recreation/nordic.aspx
b. Visit Idaho Main Idaho Winter Page. The main page for # b. above – In addition to XC Skiing it has links to snowmobiling, alpine skiing and other winter activities.
1. SNOTEL Snow Depth
Reports, (Daily Readings): These show Snow Water Equivalent (SWE), Snow Depth, Total Precipitation
since Oct. 01, and
several temperature readings. SWE is the inches of water in the existing snow pack.
Currently snow density is not displayed but can be calculated. Density percent
is SWE/Depth100. Another useful calculation is: Inches of Snow Depth per Inch
of Snow Water Equivalent. This can help interpret other tables or other sites
that only have SWE readings.
Select any time
period. I prefer to view 14 days. These all have readings taken at Midnight
Pacific Standard Time. For depth, I find these daily reports less
confusing. Although I call these "Depth Reports", many sites don't
have depth gauges, so the Depth Column will be blank.
Depth Readings Closest to Salmon are from several MONTANA NRCS SNOTEL SITES. Two of these sites are actually on the ID/MT divide. Go to the following site: http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/sdr.pl?state=MT and select “Saddle Mountain” for data near Lost Trail and Chief Joseph. Select Lemhi Ridge for data near the William's Creek area or for data in the Lemhi Valley between Salmon and Leadore. Darkhorse Lake is another site that would give data for the highest elevations in the Beaverheads.
Currently the closest SNOTEL sites in Idaho with depth gauges are Banner Summit, Galena Summit, Hilts Creek & Lolo Pass. These may be useful if one is traveling to Boise or Sun Valley or to compare depths to the south of us. Go to the following site http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/sdr.pl?state=ID and select Banner Summit or Galena Summit (or other Idaho site). (All Idaho sites will come up but depth will be missing for most.)
2. Multi-Day SNOTEL
Readings. The Best Source for Temperatures or for Timing of
Recent Storms.
The above "Depth Reports" are only taken once a day. The following
reports have either one hour or three hour readings. Note that the readings are
Pacific Standard Time. Thus if the reading is for 06:00 AM it's 07:00 MST
(Mountain Standard Time). These reports are the best source for
"Current Temperatures". Sometimes the readings seem to be very
current and sometimes there may be a lag of several hours before the data are
posted. If the data hasn’t been updated for several hours, try the NOAA reports
in Section E, below. Each report is sorted by date and time in descending
order. The latest reading is on the bottom. The Site Elevation, Time Interval
of Readings, and whether the site measures depth are listed for each:
Saddle Mountain
(Elevation: 7900, 3 hour readings with depth): This is
usually the best source for Lost Trail and Chief Joseph snow and temperature
data. This is actually not on Saddle Mountain but rather a mile or so NW of the
Lost Trail Chair Lift #1:
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=727&days=7&state=MT
Moose Creek
(Elevation: 6200, 1 hour readings w/o depth): South of,
and lower in elevation than the base of Lost Trail Chair #2.
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=638&days=7&state=ID
Take
the Saddle Mt. Depth/SWE reduce it slightly and multiply it times Moose Cr. SWE
to get a rough depth estimate.
Lemhi Ridge
(Elevation: 8100, 3 hour readings with depth): This is
one of the closest sites to our William's Creek ski trails:
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=576&days=7&state=MT
Morgan Creek (Elevation:
7600, 1 hour readings w/o depth): This is also close to William's
Creek Summit. One should compare temperatures and SWE values. This doesn't
have depth, but does have hourly readings. Sometimes there is less delay in
the data:
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=639&days=7&state=ID
Take
the Lemhi Ridge Depth/SWE and multiply it times Morgan Cr. SWE to get a rough
depth estimate.
Schwartz Lake
(Elevation: 8620, 1 hour readings w/o depth): (near
Basin Lake):
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=915&days=7&state=ID
Meadow Lake
(Elevation: 9150, 1 hour readings w/o depth): West of
Gilmore:
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=620&days=7&state=ID
Banner Summit
(Elevation: 7040, 1 hour readings with depth): If you're
going to the Stanley area or driving to Boise this could be helpful:
http://www3.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=312&days=7&state=ID
- Readings are always
very prompt.
To obtain the above reports go to: http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/sdr-all.pl and select the desired state and then the desired site.
3. Other Snotel &
Surface Weather Observation Sites:
a.
NRCS National Water and Climate Center - Main SNOW Page:
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snow/ Has links to numerous snow
reports. Note that the following state sites have links to some of the same
reports as this site and links to other reports (usually similar).
b. Other Idaho Reports: Idaho Snow Survey Home Page.
This text report shows the % of average SWE
& Precipitation for all Idaho sites. We're in the Salmon Basin.
A slightly different table format report can be found HERE. Check both reports, sometimes one
will have an error not in the other.
Scroll down to the Salmon
Basin and select the Site of interest such as Lemhi Ridge or Saddle Mountain or
the Basin Wide Summary.
Then look at the Percent
Departure from Avg. Column. Subtracting this value from 100 gives the Percent
of Normal Value.
The
above reports use some of the “Montana” sites including Saddle Mtn. & Lemhi
Ridge.
An alternative to the above reports is the
similar: Montana % of Average
SWE Text Report.
Look for the “Jefferson
River Basin” which also uses Saddle Mtn. & Lemhi Ridge.
c. Other Montana Reports: Montana Snow Survey Home Page:
Lost Trail Ski Area Snow Report
(Only updated during ski season.)
d. The Western US Snow Depth Map has a symbol for each Snotel site that measures depth. The symbol will give a snow depth range.
e. NOAA Snotel, and other surface
weather observations, searchable map.
Once the map is
displayed you can click of a variety of weather sites. Hover the mouse to see
the type and name of the site. Click to display Snotel or other readings.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mso/newlcl.php
Note that for sites
with multiple stations only one type of station may be shown on the map. For
example for Banner Summit, only the RAWS data can be accessed from the map.
However one can select Banner Summit Snotel from the list at the bottom of the
map.
Rather than using the above map or table you can click on
one of the links below. Many of the NRCS Snotel reports list the most
recent data on the bottom. These NOAA reports list the most recent data on
top. They will often not list all data. I think they weed out data that
looks questionable.
NOAA Snotel - Saddle Mountain (Elevation: 7900, 3 hour readings with depth): This is usually the best source for Lost Trail and Chief Joseph snow and temperature data. This is actually not on Saddle Mountain but rather a mile or so NW of the Lost Trail Chair Lift #1.
NOAA Snotel -Moose Creek (Elevation: 6200, 3 hour readings w/o depth): South of, and lower in elevation than the base of Lost Trail Chair #2. Take the Saddle Mt. Depth/SWE reduce it slightly and multiply it times Moose Cr. SWE to get a rough depth estimate.
NOAA Snotel -Lemhi Ridge (Elevation: 8100, 3 hour readings with depth): This is one of the closest sites to our William's Creek ski trails.
NOAA Snotel - Morgan Creek (Elevation: 7600, 1 hour readings w/o depth): This is also close to William's Creek Summit. One should compare temperatures and SWE values. This doesn't have depth, but does have hourly readings. Sometimes there is less delay in the data. Take the Lemhi Ridge Depth/SWE and multiply it times Morgan Cr. SWE to get a rough depth estimate.
NOAA Snotel -Schwartz Lake (Elevation: 8620, 1 hour readings w/o depth): (near Basin Lake).
NOAA Snotel - Meadow Lake (Elevation: 9150, 1 hour readings w/o depth): West of Gilmore.
NOAA Snotel - Banner Summit (Elevation: 7040, 1 hour readings with depth): If you're going to the Stanley area or driving to Boise this could be helpful. See the note above. This link is not available from the map, only from the list below the map.
NOAA – RAWS – SALMON (Has precipitation, temperatures, etc.): This doesn’t have snow information, but the temperatures can be compared against Lemhi Ridge or Saddle Mountain to determine if we are in an “Inversion”, etc. Note also that the site is not exactly in Salmon but almost 1,000 feet higher at 5,100’ elevation.
f. Other Snow and Weather History Sites:
Desert
Research Institute (DRI) - Western
Regional Climate Center, Snotel Site - Has links to reports and graphs, including:
N.Idaho/W.Montana Map
Link to Snotel Graphs, including: Graph Setup Page for
Lemhi Ridge Snotel Site, and Graph Setup Page for
Saddle Mtn.
In the above “setup pages” select the starting and ending YYYYMMDD, often
October 1 to July 15 makes a good display of snow water.
4. Avalanche and Backcountry Conditions:
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Backcountry Weather Forecast |
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mso/textproduct.php?pil=SAB&zone=MTZ004 |
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Avalanche danger rating definitions - |
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Avalanche.Org - General Ave Info. - |
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" Us Can. Accidents 05-06 - |
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Understanding Avalanche Risk - |
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Avalanche Awareness - |
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CyberSpace Avalanche Center (CSAC) - |
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" Worldwide Accidents 05-06 - |
http://www.csac.org/Incidents/ Has limited info now. |
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The Rutschblock Test. |
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/1996/npsRutsch.html |
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5. Weather Forecasts and Road Conditions.
a. Weather Forecasts: (all links have major revisions Oct 2008) CLICK HERE to learn about Point Forecasts.
Lost Trail Pass Area Weather: (Click on the links to get a
weather forecast)
NOAA Tabular “Point Forecast” for LOST
TRAIL PASS. (This was previously called the Prototype
Digital Forecast.)
Other Lost Trail Forecast formats:
7
Day Text Only Format,
The Printable
Forecast Format
is similar with more graphics.
Snow
Forecast.Com’s Lost Trail Ski Area Forecast. The default is for Metric
Units, Click on the “Imper.” (Imperial) link for feet & inches.
Another good forecast is the backcountry
weather forecast. Look for the Bitterroot – Lost Trail Pass area.
This doesn’t cover as long a period so you
need to check it again periodically.
Notice that this lists the “Snow Level”
(The elevation where rain changes to snow.). Caution this report isn’t usually
activated until winter.
William's Cr. Summit (Approx.): CLICK
HERE for NOAA Tabular Point (formerly Digital) Forecast for Lat.:
45.093, Long. -114.086.
This area is for the Lat./Long. for William's Cr. Summit. This is probably
not EXACTLY at William’s Cr. Summit. The NOAA displayed elevation for this
Lat/Long. Has varied. Previously it displayed 7774, then 7564, and recently
back to 7,774’ - close to the Summit elevation of 7813 and close to the elevations
where we ski.
Other William’s Cr Summit Forecast formats: 7
Day Text Only Format,
The Printable
Forecast Format
is similar with more graphics.
Salmon, ID Weather: (Click on the links to get a
weather forecast)
NOAA Tabular “Point Forecast” for SALMON,
ID. (This was previously called the Prototype Digital
Forecast.)
Other Salmon Forecast formats:
7
Day Text Only Format,
The Printable
Forecast Format
is similar with more graphics.
Missoula National Weather Service (NWS), Forecast Area forecasts for selected points: CLICK HERE to select a town or a Latitude Longitude in the Missoula Weather Forecast Area or Click on a location on the map at the bottom. This allows one to get a forecast for more than just an official town. I’m not sure if there are options for the Latitude – Longitude, but I know that 45.093,-114.086 will work. (Latitude in decimal degrees, a coma, and latitude preceded by a minus sign (for west) and decimal degrees).
b. Road Conditions:
Idaho Road Reports:
Idaho Roads Home Page: http://511.idaho.gov/
Idaho Road Link to Lemhi
County Weather. Idaho Road Conditions: http://511.idaho.gov/ -
Click on desired highway. For example: US-93, SH-28, SH-29, SH-75, SH-21. Roads
not in numeric order, use the browser "Find" feature if necessary.
Montana Road Reports:
MT Travel Info. Home Page: http://www.mdt.mt.gov/travinfo/
Winter Storm Warnings: http://www.mdt.mt.gov/travinfo/scripts/rdrpt.pl?rptname=Hazardous+Weather&box=No
Detailed Road Rpt: needs
to be added - Look for MT-43 & US-93.
Road Condition Map: needs to be
added
1. Telemark Tips at: http://www.telemarktips.com/ is one of the best. Be sure and click on their "Telemark Talk Forum"
2. Couloir Magazine at: http://www.couloirmag.com/ also has some good articles.
3. Cross Country Ski Magazine at: http://www.crosscountryskier.com/.
4. The Rec.Sking.Backcountry "Newsgroup" has messages related to backcountry skiing.
The
most dependable way to access this is probably via "Google Groups".
This used to be called "Deja News" before Google took it over. Click
HERE to go to the latest messages.
Another way is to do a Google Groups Advanced Search at: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search and enter in
rec.skiing.backcountry for the newsgroup. I prefer to list 100 messages but
limit the search to the last few years. A typical search might be for "wax
waxless", without the quotes, in the "With All The Words" box.
When you see a message with an applicable subject, click on "View
Thread" and then click on the first message. You'll also see the next
several answers to the first message. Click on Next 7, or whatever number is
showing, to see the next several answers.
Here's another way to read the most recent messages. It won't work on
any of the government computers, but if you have set up your computer properly,
it should work for those using Salmon Internet, if you have one of the
following: Microsoft Internet News, Microsoft Outlook Express, or Netscape. It
may be necessary to have Netscape as your default browser for it to work. Click
on the following: news:rec.skiing.backcountry and one of the previously mentioned
programs should open. Allow 2 or 3 minutes for the messages to display. Click
on any message that has an interesting subject. If you want to look at this
newsgroup regularly you may want to use the "Subscribe To This
Newsgroup" feature. Note that normally the messages are NOT downloaded to
your computer only the subject titles. Holler if you want more information on
Newsgroups. Be careful with the "alt" news groups. Some are very
good, such as alt.genealogy, but some are xx rated. (At least that's what they
appear to be based on their titles.)
To print a copy of one of the maps or larger images, it's faster to save the file to your disk and print it later. In MS Explorer, rest your cursor on the link to the desired file and right click and select "Save Target As". You can click on the file later and read it with your browser or other default program for that type of file. I have a $15 Photoworks Plus V2.31 from Seattle Filmworks. It works better for printing maps than MS Explorer or MS Photo Editor. If necessary, I use the "Poster Mode" to distribute the map over several pages.
You can save this file and edit it to reflect your personal needs. To save this file, make sure that it's saved as an HTML file with an ".htm" or ".html" extension (suffix). You can then double click on the file name and your web browser will launch. You can also launch your browser and then open this file (Using File, Open, Browse, etc.). Click on any of the above links to go to that site. If not already connected your web browser will open and will dial your Internet Service Provider (ISP).
Once filed, this can be edited by most modern word processors. For example: if you have MS Office 97, then within MS Internet Explorer Version 5, you can select "File" and "Edit with Microsoft Word for Windows 97". Other Browsers and other word processors will vary as to commands. Note that you cannot line up or space words with the space bar or with tabs in an Internet document. You can insert a "Nonbreaking Space" as was done here, or you can use Tables to accomplish this. In MS Word you enter a Nonbreaking space by typing the Ctrl-Shift-SpaceBar at the same time. Save the document periodically and then go back to the Browser version and hit the Refresh Button to see your changes.
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10/16/2007 00:00 PM |
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Spring 2007 |
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1/ Items with an "*" were added since previous
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Two ** indicate added to file but not yet on
web. Minor Revisions made on 02/11/06