Salmon-Challis NF William's Cr XC Ski Trails - 2009 Sign Inventory & Needs
Fn	Orig TR #	New TR#	Orig Wpnt#	Jct #	Aprx Miles	Needs Row- Col	# Exist Signs	# New Signs	# Photos	Trail Name	Remarks
1/	010.	302? 255?		Dc01	00.00					Deep Cr Ridge Trail aka "Mukluk"	Start at Deep Cr. Ridge Trailhead (0.6 mi south of Wms Cr. Summit on the Ridge Road. Trailhead signs need re-painting.
1/	010.	302? 255?		Dc02	00.70	12-3 13-1 13-2				"	Upper Shoshoni TH. See diagrams for placement of signs.
	010.			Dc03	02.60	13-3				"	End of cleared portion of old Deep Cr. Ridge Trail. Previously named Mukluk Trail bears right.
Tot.	010.									Deep Cr Ridge Trail
1/	244.	255.		Mu01		13-3				Mukluk	Start original Mukluk Trail. (Apparently more recent trail inventories have added the cleared portion of Deep Cr. Ridge to Mukluk. Trail makes a sharp bend to right at this point. Face sign back toward cleared Deep Cr Ridge Tr.
	244.	255.		Mu02						"	Mukluk TH. Signs currently adaquate. May need more later.
Tot.	010.									Mukluk
1/	243.	?		ShoU	00.00	12-3 13-1 13-2				Upper Shoshoni	Upper Shoshoni TH. See diagrams for placement of signs. Upper Shoshoni is primarily a "telemark trail". See Trailhead photo.
	243.	?		ShoU	00.70					"	End trail - there is no sign.
Tot.	243.									Upper Shoshoni
1/	247.	243?		ShoL1	00.00					Lower Shoshoni	There is no real need to keep these trail separate, except for past numbering conflicts and also becasue the Lower trail is primarily an intermediate trail.
	247.	243?		ShoL2	00.70					"	Trailhead Sign is missing.
Tot.	247.	243?		ShoL						Lower Shoshoni
	020.	020.	001.	RrN1	00.00		1		1	Ridge Road North	Existing "Wms Cr Summit Trails sign. Condition fair. Paint?
	020.	020.	002.	RrN1	00.09		2			"	Existing "No Wheeled Vehicles" sign. OK.
	021.	021.		WmRd		12-1				William's Cr Road	At William's Cr. Summit we need sign WmRd1a facing back toward the summit starting down toward Moccasin Cr. Need to verify loc. w/ Engineering.
	020.	020.	002.	RrS1	00.00		2	1	2	Ridge Road south	"Caution SC Skiers On Trail" & "No Wheeled Vehicles" = OK. Need "Wms Cr Summit Trails ..." sign RrS1.
Tot.	020.	020.								Ridge Road
	222.	222.	002.	Md01	00.00		2		4	Meadow Trail	Md01a skier diagram needs repaint.
	222.	222.	003.	Md02	00.10	01-1 01-2	0	3	0	"	Spur 222.1 goes right. 222 continues straight. Md02a face to TH. Md02b face toward end of 222.1. Md02b also works as reverse sign for 222. Md02c is a generic Easier Ski Route for 222.1 Need a Closed to Bicycles sign for 222.1
	222.	222.	005.	Md03 Wa01	00.35	01-3 04-1	1	1	2	Continue Meadow Tr. Start Wapiti Meadows Loop	Start of Wapiti Meadows Trail w/ Sign. This is an "L" turn for Meadow Trail. Need sign Md03a facing to Road. Md03b "End Wapiti" is the reverse sign. Face away from road.
	222.	222.	006.	Md04 Wa02	00.49		1	?	1	Continue Meadow Tr. Wapiti to right.	This Jct had 3 or 4 adequate signs. Trees cut for firewood. Signs may be under snow. Check in spring for sign needs. Need 2 Bike Route signs for 222. (Wapiti is closed to bikes.)
	222.	222.	007.	Md05	00.63		0	?		Meadow Tr.	Creek crossing. May want sign in future.
	222.	222.	008.	Md06	00.80	02-1 03-1 05-1	0	3		"	A "T" turn. Meadow Tr bends left. Cutoff to Wapiti goes right. Face Md06a toward TH. Face Md06b downhill toward end. Face Md06c toward Wapiti at end of "Cutoff". Need "Easier Ski Rt." for cutoff.
	222.	222.	010.	Md07	00.96		0	2		"	The main ski trail goes straight on a more gentle by-pass. The road, more suitable for Bikes bends sharply right. Need "Easier Ski Rt." sign for main trail and "Bike Route" sign for road facing uphill.
	222.	222.	011.	Md08	01.10		0	2		"	Ski trail rejoins old road making a sharp bend to left. Need same signs as Md07 facing downhill.
	222.	222.	012.	Md09	01.43	02-3	1	1	1	Main Trail bears rt. "Cutoff" bears left.	"William's Cr. Rd Cutoff" goes straight and then bears left. Main trail to Cougar Pt goes right. Existing Md09a sign adequate for going downhill. Face Md09b toward Cougar Pt. This should also be adequate for those skiing up the "Cutoff"..
	222.	222.	013.	Md10	01.59		0	0		Meadow Tr.	Top steep 20% slope. End drivable road. Possible by-pass. At bottom of hill @ MP 1.67 trail bears Rt by old log cabin. Also a possible junction for alternate trail.
	222.	222.	015.	Md11	01.76		0	0		"	Creek crossing. May want sign in future.
	222.	222.	016.	Md12	01.87		0	0		"	Creek crossing. May want sign in future.
	222.	222.	017.	Md13	02.24		0	0		"	Enter logging cutover area. Multiple options for backcountry skiers. At MP 2.40 trail bears slightly left into Aspen Meadow.
	222.	222.	019.	Md14	02.47		0	0		"	Trail drops steeply to right back into logging area. Most skiers will make own switchback trail. Need to monitor summertime use for erosion and tread construction needs.
	222.	222.	020.	Md15	02.60		0	0		"	Trail bears right into thicker trees. Alt. backcountry ski route downhill through cutting area to then parallel Wms Cr. Road to Cougar Point.
	222.	222.	022.	Md16	02.87	02-2	1	1	3	"	Trail ends at Cougar Point Picnic Area. There is a large "William's Cr. Trail System" map. Md16a. This also says "End Meadow Trail. Need a Md16b sign to show mileages for those going up the trail. Sign could be added to Md16a. (Originally it was assumed that nobody would go UP the trail, but many do.)
Tot.	222.	222.								Meadow Trail Total
	n/a	222.2	031.	MdC1	00.00		1	1	1	Meadow Trail "Cutoff"	"Cutoff Trail" starts at Meadow Tr Jct Md09 (MP 1.43). See Md09 for sign needs. In about 134 feet Cutoff trail bears left and is steep (20%+) for about 300'. Plan a by-pass around this.
	n/a	222.2	033.	MdC2	00.21					"	Rd. Jct. Trail follows rd to left and gets steep (10-15%) in 0.05 Mi. Plan by-pass for advanced beginners. There is a possible trail following road to right. It would probably tie in at Md10.
	n/a	222.2	034.	MdC3	00.34	03-2 03-3	0	2		End Meadow Trail "Cutoff"	Need MdC3s "end of trail" with directions to parking area. Face uphill. Need MdC3b for mileages for those going UP the trail. Face to road.
Tot.	n/a	222.2								Meadow Cutoff Total
	n/a	222.1	023.	MdS1	00.00	01-1 01-2	0	3	0	Meadow Trail Spur	Same point as Md02. This fork to the right is an easier access to the Wapiti Loop and the only trail suitable for "1st day skiers".
	n/a	222.1	024.	MdS2	485'		0	1		"	Follow green diamonds for the easiest route around steep area. Add "Easier Ski Route" sign where green diamonds bear left.
	n/a	222.1	027.	MdS3	00.38		1	0		"	Triangle Jct w/ Wapiti Loop Trail. Sign has ^ Meadow Tr & > Wapiti.
	n/a	222.1	028.	MdS3	00.40		1	0		End Meadow Trail Spur	Each leg in the triangle is about 100'. Right leg hits Wapiti Loop at a "Wet Meadow" sign.
Tot.	n/a	222.1								Meadow Trail Spur
	242.	242.	003.	Wa01 Md03	00.00	01-3 04-1	1	1	2	Wapiti Meadows Loop	Start Wapiti Meadows Loop. Same point as Md03. Meadow Trail & Wapiti are co-located for about 0.14 miles.
	242.	242.	004.	Wa02 Md04	00.14		1	?	1	"	Meadow Tr. continues downhill. Wapiti bears right. Tree cut. Signs missing. See comments for Md04.
	242.	242.	005.	Wa05	00.19		1			"	Meadow Tr. Spur 222.1 enters. Signs adequate.
	242.	242.	006.	Wa06	00.21		1			"	Other leg of triangle of Meadow Tr. Spur 222.1 enters. Signs adequate.
	242.	242.	007.	Wa07	00.27		1			"	Start actual loop. Normal route is to right (counter-clockwise), but not required. I need to add a sign here. ie "Wapiti Meadows Loop >"
	242.	242.	009.	Wa08	00.41					"	Cross Meadow for about 0.06 miles and Cross Creek. In 0.03 miles start about 200' of 9% Grade. Need 5-7% by-pass for beginning skiers.
	242.	242.	010.	Wa09	00.51					"	Creek crossing. May want bridge. Note: High point for trail where trail bears left is at MP 0.77
	242.	242.	012.	Wa10	01.00	04-2 04-3				"	Wapiti Cutoff to Meadow Tr. to right. Need Wa10a (WaC1a) facing counter-clockwise skier on Wapiti Loop. Need Wa10b facing clockwise skier. This cutoff is useful so that faster skiers can complete the loop while slower skiers take the cutoff to then join for lunch.
	242.	242.	013.	Wa11	01.07					"	Creek crossing with primitive bridge. May need improvement.
	242.	242.	007.	Wa12	01.16					Wapiti Meadows Loop End	I forgot a sign here. Need "William's Cr Rd. / Meadow TH >"
Tot.										Wapiti Meadows Loop
		242.1	012.	WaC1	00.00	05-2	0	3		Wapiti Cutoff	Need WaC1a facing skier coming from Meadow Trail. Note: I missed an arrow on this sign. See Wa10 for other signs at this Jct.
		242.1	014.	WaC2 Md06	00.12	05-1	0	1		End Wapit Cutoff	Sign Md06c/WaC2a needed at end of Wapiti Cutoff facing back toward Wapiti. See Md06 for other signs at this Jct.
Tot.	242.									Wapiti Cutoff
	078.	078.	001.	Wm01	00.00		1	1	4	Williams Cr Trail	The initial 420' is extremely steep (35%). There is now a more gentle by-pass (15%) taking off about 100' to the right of the sign. We need an "Easier Ski Route" sign at the start of the by-pass.
	078.	078.	002.	Wm02	00.08					"	End of 1st steep pitch with another in in about 150'. The 1st by-pass ends here on right and another starts on right in 100'. Need two "Easier Ski Route" signs.
	078.	078.	004.	Wm03	00.17					"	End of the 2nd By-pass. Need an "Easier Ski Route" sign.
	078.	078.	005.	Wm04	00.31					"	Approx start of 3rd by-pass. This skirts the main trail to the left and then crosses the trail to the right. It re-enters the main trail at main trail MP 0.36,skirting a short but steep 40% pitch. Need about four "Easier Ski Route" signs.
	078.	078.	008.	Wm05	00.69		1		1	"	Buckhorn Tr # 224 crosses. There is no sign where the trail leaves the Meadow but there is a sign at the middle of the meadow at MP 0.73  (Wm05a).
	078.	078.	010.	Wm06	00.89		2	1		"	End of Perreau Meadows Trail. See that trail for sign needs.
	078.	078.	012.	Wm07	01.76			1		"	By-pass needed around steep area. Location not yet final. Will need two "Easier Ski Route" signs. This area often has crusty snow.
	078.	078.	013.	Wm08	01.88	05-3 06-1	2	2		"	Jct. w/ (Upper) Aspen Loop Tr. on Rt. Need Wm08a facing up Wms Cr Tr and Wm08b at end of Upper Aspen Loop facing back to TH. Trees are dying. May need posts. Current "signs" are just poorly placed trail numbers.
	078.	078.	014.	Wm09	02.45	06-2 07-2	0	1		"	NW cor. of a triangle Jct w/ (Lower) Aspen Loop. Wms Cr trail bears left and Aspen Loop bears Rt. Place sign Wm09a so that the right pointing arrow > points down the creek. Another sign Wm09b is needed facing downhill toward the Lower Aspen trail at right angle to Wn09a. Trees are dying. May need a post.
	078.	078.	015.	Wm10	02.54		1		1	"	NE cor. of triangle Jct w/ (Lower Aspen Loop. Wms Cr. trail goes straight downhill. Aspen loop goes right. At this point it's 0.07 miles to the right back to the "Tip of the Aspen Loop "Triangle". Photo Wm10a is clear. We may want to have a sign pointing downhill sometime. But we need to explore a possible by-pass to avoid the very steep slope, rocks and usual bare patches.
	078.	078.	016.	Wm11	02.62					"	Cross small creek at bottom of steep (20%) meadow.
	078.	078.	018.	Wm12	02.72					"	Cross rocky south exposure that's often bare of snow and cross a creek that is often open. Look for a better route. Otherwise we may want some caution signs. Cross another creek in .02 miles to a non drivable road.
	078.	078.	020.	Wm13	02.91		0	1		"	At top of steep rocky downhill pitch. A by-pass is located to the right (needs green diamonds) and needs two "Easier Ski Route" signs.
	078.	078.	021.	Wm14	02.96					"	Bottom of steep pitch and by-pass. Road bears right and is drivable now.
	078.	078.	022.	Wm15	03.17		1			"	Summertime pack trail to left. Sign: " ^ Perriau Cr. Trail # 6078". Trail is too steep with too little snow to ski. Ski trail bears right. Need to ensure that there are visible blue diamonds on trail at this point.
	078.	078.	023.	Wm16	03.40	06-3	1	1		Williams Cr Trail End	There is a "Big Fir TH, End William's Cr Trail" (Wm16a). We need sign Wm16b for those going UP the trail.
Tot.	078.	078.								Williams Cr Trail Total
	223.	223.	001.	As00	00.00			1		Aspen Loop Trail - Upper Section	The parking area for Wapiti & Upper Aspen has moved due to difficulty plowing at the actual Trailhead. We will probably need added signs becasue there is a good approach to the trail from this spot. Need new sign. Waypoint is from Wapiti Loop file.
	223.	223.	002.	As0.1	00.11					"	Distance up road to Upper Aspen Loop TH. Waypoint from Wapiti. Miles are for info. Not included in trail mileage.
	223.	223.	025.	As01	00.00		2		2	"	Start (Upper) Aspen Loop Trail. Existing signs are adaquate. Trail bears Rt. in a meadow in 180'.
	223.	223.	027.	As02	00.08			2		"	At 0.08 there is a unmarked trail to the right going to the above parking area. Need some signs. I'll get them later.
	223.	223.	030.	As03	00.54	06-1 05-3		2		"	Sign Wm08b/As03a needed at end of trail. Wm08a also on Wms Cr. Trail. See Wm08 for more details.
	223.	223.								Aspen Loop Trail - Middle Section	Aspen Loop Trail is co-located with William's Cr Trail from Wm08 Mp 1.88 to Wm09 Mp 2.45 for about 0.6 miles.
	223.	223.	014.	Wm09	00.00	06-2 07-2				Aspen Loop Trail - Lower Section	Lower section starts at NW tip of a triangle at Jct Wm09. (This shortcut saves about.08 miles & a slight climb over the previous route) See William's Cr trail Jct. Wm09 for sign details.
	223.	223.	A16	As05	00.08					"	"Tip of triangle" with original route from Wm10. Leave meadow for trees.
	223.	223.	A17	As06	00.25					"	A (often rocky) creek crossing. Then the trail climbs steeply up to the Lower Aspen Loop Parking area.
	223.	223.	A19	As07	00.35	07-1	1	1		"	Lower Aspen Loop TH Parking. Replace existing sign with As07a. Approx. mileage: Upper Aspen 0.54, Lower Aspen 0.35 = 0.8 miles. Middle section co-located w/ Wms Cr. Trail = 0.6. Total about 1.4 w/ shortcut or 1.5 w/o.
Tot.	223.									Aspen Loop Trail - Total
	624.5	417.	001.	Pr01	00.00	07-3	1	1		Perreau Meadows Tr.	Existing sign doesn't show option of skiing back to A-Frame. (The Upper Perreau Rd was built after trails were signed.) Replace existing sign with new Pr01a. Also need to add a standard MOST DIFFICULT sign.
	624.5	417.	002.	Pr02	00.43					Perreau Meadows Tr.	Trail makes right turn into trees. Much of this first section needs more blue diamonds and some with arrows at this point. Some of the dark blue diamonds need a yellow border to stand out more, especially in the shade.
	624.5	417.	003.	Pr03	00.95	08-1 08-2 08-3				Perreau Meadows Tr.	The trail crosses Rd 5082 diagonally to the right. After crossing it parallels the road for about 100 yards. Put sign Pr03a on the trail above the road facing downhill. Pr03b should be below the road about where the trail leaves the road, facing back toward the start of the road. Pr03c should be at about the same location but facing back toward the trail.
	624.5	417.	012.	Pr04	02.03	09-2				Perreau Meadows Tr.	The trail had only recently been marked for uphill travel. Now that it is, we need a destination sign at the bottom of the trail facing down. Sign Pr04a can be placed on the same tree as the existing sign. This mileage is slightly more than previoulsy used. I'm using 1.9 miles as was previously used to not conflict with existing signs.
Tot.	624.5									Perreau Meadows Tr. Total
		5082.	013.	PrRd1	00.00					Upper Perreau Road	The upper Perreau Rd. allows a loop back to the A-Frame. It also allows one to ski the lower Perreau Meadows trail avoiding some hill climbing. At this point where the trail crosses the road several signs are needed. See Pr03 for details. Need to add this section of the road on our ski trail maps.
		5082.	014.	PrRd2	00.54					"	Road gate. Usually open in winter.
		5082.	015.	PrRd3	00.76	09-1				"	Start of Rd. 5082 at the Ridge Road. Need sign PrRd3a facing out toward Ridge Road. This will be very useful for folks staying at the A-Frame.
Tot.										Upper Perreau Road
	225.	225.	001.	Nm01	00.00					North Moccasin Trail	Start N. Moccasin Trail left off Ridge Rd. About 2 mi north of William's Cr Summit. Signs adaquate.
	225.	225.	002.	Nm02	00.79					"	Last good turn-around before the trail drops steeply.
1/	225.	225.	004.	Nm03	02.71	09-3 10-1 10-2				"	Reach meadow. Leave trees. Moccasin Cutoff to left. Main trail continues straight down meadow. Signs lost. High priority to replace. Sign Nm03a should face uphill. Sign Nm03b is for the start of the "Cutoff" and can be right beside 03a also facing uphill. See Cutoff for notes for Nm03c.
1/	225.	225.	006.	Nm04	03.20					"	Hit rail fence and bear left and follow fence around eventually bearing right.
1/	225.	225.	?	Nm05	03.40	10-3				"	Reach Phelan Cr Rd 098. This last mileage not verified. Sign Nm05a is at the end of the N. Moccasin Tr. facing toward the road.
Tot.	225.									North Moccasin Trail - Total
		225.1	004.	NmC1	00.00	09-3 10-1 10-2				North Moccasin Cutoff	Same point as Nm03. See notes for Nm03a & b. NmC1a is for the end of the cutoff is someone is skiing up it. It should face back down the Cutoff Trail. An arrow is missing (sheet # 10-2).
1/		225.1	?	NmC2	01.40	11-1				"	Reach Phelan Cr Rd 098. This last mileage not verified, but close. Sign NmC2a is at the end of the Moccasin Cutoff facing toward the road.
Tot.	225.1									North Moccasin Cutoff
		098.		PhRd1	00.00	11-1				Phelan Cr Road	This road is not being plowed regularly anymore. Most of the time we will probably need to park at the Jct. with the Deep Cr. Road. We need to check and see if this would be a good place to put sign PhRd1a.
		098.		PhRd2	00.44					"	N. Moccasin Cutoff Trailhead.
		098.		PhRd	00.82					"	Jct. w/ Moccasin Cr Rd. If snow isn't too deep this is a possible parking area.
		098.		PhRd	00.89					"	N. Moccasin Trailhead by rail fence on right.
Tot.										Phelan Cr Road
	224.									Buckhorn Trail
	224.									Buckhorn Trail
Tot.	224.									Buckhorn Trail Total
4/										Grand Total
										Total By-Passes only
1/	The old Deep Cr Ridge Trail went from the start of the CNF Rd up and down Deep Cr. Ridge to the Deep Cr. Rd. It was about 4.6+ miles. It hadn't been cleared for many years. It was cleared in part (2.6 miles) for access to the Mukluk Trail. There is no clearing past where the Mukluk Trail leaves except for some clearing just above the Deep Cr. Rd. The Mukluk Trail is 1.6 miles. However now it appears that the cleared portion of the Deep Cr. Ridge Trail has been included as part of the Mukluk Trail. The mostly uncleared portion of the remaining Deep Cr. Ridge Trail is now listed as Tr. # 6302
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